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by JBTSAX
(364 posts)
6 years ago

If Classical Saxophone is "Leg

Just trying to stir things up.

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  1. by newreedsyndrome
    (343 posts)

    6 years ago

    Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

    why, illegimate, of course! they are the bastard children of reall music! jk

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    1. by cuber
      (653 posts)

      6 years ago

      Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

      Stupid question: If jazz and Rock are the bastard children of real music, whats the other parent?

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      1. by newreedsyndrome
        (343 posts)

        6 years ago

        Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

        who knows? he ran away! (assuming real music is female)

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    2. by sax_maniac
      (984 posts)

      6 years ago

      Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

      I'm curious as to how the term "legit" got applied and who came up with the term. Did a snooty classical style player coin the term or a jazz player with a self-esteem problem?

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      1. by azurealto
        (79 posts)

        6 years ago

        Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

        probably a snooty classical player. (they're annoying sometimes)

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    3. by janderson
      (2 posts)

      6 years ago

      Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

      Wow, that's a strange term in the first place. It seems to imply that a player either knows how to play or not. No matter what your repertoire or taste, you have to know what you are doing on the instrument.

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      1. by saxophonist_104
        (148 posts)

        6 years ago

        Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

        i looked up legitimate on dictionary.com and found the typical definitions meaning "legal", "licit", "valid", etc., but i took the connotation meaning "real". so does that mean that classical is real and that jazz, blues, rock, and other styles are not? if so, then how do we hear it? do we only imagine it? does the audience imagine it as well?

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        1. by flowertj
          (6 posts)

          4 years ago

          Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

          The term "Legit Saxophone" was in fact coined by the jazz saxophonists. I my self am studying classical saxophone, and have been for almost 8 years, and I have never once referred to myself or other classical saxophonists as a "Legit Saxophonist". I chose to study classical saxophone seriously, but in now way does that mean that I don't love jazz. I just didn't choose to pursue it as a profession. As a matter of fact, I just got finished listening to Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" about an hour ago. That's about as legitimate as it gets when it comes to jazz saxophone, and I can guarantee the majority of the jazz folks here criticizing the classical players have never listened to that album.

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          1. by cuber
            (653 posts)

            4 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            everybody has listened to a love supreme. literally, everybody. and seriously, its just a bit of good-natured joking. no reason to make a thread on EVERY sub-forum about it. a majority of sax players do play both- they just prefer one over another.

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        2. by saxophonist_104
          (148 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

          what i really mean (in a less wordy manner) is that if rock, jazz, and blues are not legit, then are they only percieved in the mind?

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          1. by Bibimbop
            (53 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            "legit" is a very discriminatory term, and doesn't accurately describe the music. The term used more often now is "concert saxophone/saxophonist"

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          2. by kneejerk52
            (397 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            i sit next to people reading music in two different bands who read much better than me, but, none of them can play by ear or improvise, now , who do you think is better????? they think what i do playing by ear and doing solos as something they would like to be able to do and i wish i could site read as well as them, better more " legit". i think legit can apply to any kind of music, not just classical

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          3. by cuber
            (653 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            i think this is one of those "whatever floats your boat" issues. one isnt nessissarily better than the other, they are just different. yes, i know that wasnt the original question

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          4. by chalazon
            (547 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            I have a friend who refers to classical music as ';dead people music ';..whatever..

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          5. by azurealto
            (79 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            i do too.

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          6. by selmer 4evr
            (309 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            The term legitimate is a misnomer ,,it has more to do with the music one plays ,,,the music dictates the method of playing,,,,so ligit refers to the imposition of the ,music ,,,so called classical music requires a ligit type of playing ,,,,,,the french have a different term ( much better I believe ) they refer to it as """la music "Savante""""" ( meaning music that is savy or that wants to impart ideas)

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          7. by selmer 4evr
            (309 posts)

            6 years ago

            Re: If Classical Saxophone is "Legitimate" what does that make Jazz and Rock Saxophone?

            he term legitimate is a misnomer ,,it has more to do with the music one plays ,,,the music dictates the method of playing,,,,so ligit refers to the imposition of the ,music ,,,so called classical music requires a ligit type of playing ,,,,,,the french have a different term ( much better I believe ) they refer to it as ---;la music "Savante----- ( meaning music that is savy or that wants to impart ideas) therefore this music is the composer's expression ,,,and needs to be void of any musician's manipulation ,,,therefore==legit==since it is authentic and respectful of the composer's wishes

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