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by reedplayer1981
(3 posts)
6 years ago

Saxgourmet tenor

I have recently "took the dive" and purchased a Saxgourmet tenor. To slightly side step I have owned a 65,000 105,000 156,000 and 221,000 series Mark 6's, a 27,000 series Balanced Action, Series 2 and Yamaha Custom Z tenor saxes. I had decided to sell my Mark 6 tenor recently to cover my medica expenses,but needed a bright tenor that was gonna replace my but not hurt my pocket book. I had been dabbling with buying another Custom Z but saw that Orpheus/Noteworthy as liquidating their inventory of Goodson and Saxgourmet horns due to disagreements in business. I took the gamble and purchased the tenor. I was very very apprehensive about this but at $2200 I figured it was worth the try. All i can say is that I am totally pleased with this instrument. The tone, resonance, and tuning are amazing!!! I am normally used to compensate on embochure especially from low D down and especially in the palm keys. I dont have do anything on those notes. They just execute easily, and sound uniform with the rest of he saxophones scale. The other thing I would like to comment on is that this horn is definitely designed with the repiar tech in mind. I am a woodwind specialist and have repaired saxes for Mark Colby, Ravi Coltrane, and Keith Croissan when they are in the Chicago area. As well as numerous bassoons (I specialize in bassoon restoration) and this is by far one of the bet readily playable horns out of the case. Double key arms on low B and low C are something that should be standard on ALL saxes. The never stick G# spring is the absolutel most practical, and logical setup instead of some complex lifter mechanism that adds weight and deadens the body vibrational efficiency from the adding of additional posts. The keywork is very ergonomically friendly, yet nowhere near as bulky. This I have found to really be helpful ins mechanical effieciency, and in some ways will be an acoustical advantage in the long run. I have been a huge supporter of kangaroo pads for years, and have used musicmedic roo pads in my other horns religiously. There are 2 advantages in the manufacturing process from using these. The setup tech must have a flat uniform tonehole to seat these pads on which allows us techs to spend more time in the fine tuning of a pro horn when we recieve brand new horns, secondly te pads are not of low quality leather and felt which in turn to the customer mean less time and money in the horns pad life. I can easily list more things with this instrument. But i know based on postings prior to mine about thse horns and this subject that people are going probably bash me for it. I think if i have only one thing i would question to Steve Goodson specifcally is. How can you make so much horn for such a good price? I have been so pleased with this instrument that I have recently sold my Keilwerth bari and ordered a Goodson model bari. I anxiously await it arrival, and will report about that then. Thank you Steve Goodson for bringing forth such a wonderful saxophone. Best Regards, Chad Taylor

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  1. by STEVE GOODSON
    (291 posts)

    6 years ago

    Re: Saxgourmet tenor

    Thank you for your kind remarks, and of course, for your business!

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    1. by saxxsymbol
      (217 posts)

      6 years ago

      Re: Saxgourmet tenor

      I consider my Goodson horns as the best I have blown at any price. You will really, really like the bari. Very fat sound with that bari growl through the whole range of the horn. Very solid and slick keywork. Nice links in the pigtail and bow to make repairs easier. I have the Steve Goodson Model alto to and it rings like a bell , absolutely in tune and a full tonal pallette to work with. These are the only horns besides selmers and certain conns that have that sweet resonance, especially through the middle register. A lot of the horns sound good up top or down bottom, some even top and bottom, but very few in the middle range. Has just the right amount of edge for projection even at low volumes. I own a gold plate and silver plate version and they sound identical . Don't hink this isn't a top shelf horn because it is not a saxgourmet. It is every bit a pro horn. And of course the saxgourmet tenor is my favorite horn. Not enough superlatives to describe this horn. Beautiful, keywork like butter, very complex tone. Very even response and timbre throughout.

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      1. by cuber
        (653 posts)

        6 years ago

        Re: Saxgourmet tenor

        "deadens body vibrations?" by adding a single post? ok, play a G. or an A, or whatever. take your free hand, and place it on the body. hear any difference? didnt think so. thats the effect of an extra post. Frankly, i think "body vibrations" is a load of crap, and alot of the stuff Goodsen puts on his horns are just gimicks. frankley, ive only heard 4 people(including steve) compliment the thing, and they all said it was the best thing on the face of the planet, wont play anything else, ect ect. needless to say im rather skeptical

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        1. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          You just have to try one for yourself. Don't take my word for it.

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        2. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          Maybe give one a blow someday and then base your opinion on your own experience. Then you will have an educated opinion on the matter instead of one based on rumor.

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        3. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          I still have found no limits on this sax. Another poster on SOTW recently bought a saxgourmet tenor and has had much the same experience with his. He is a well respected member and player, unlike myself, but has said the same things. He considers his saxgourmet model six tenor to be one of the finest , if not the finest, tenor has has ever played. And like myself he ordered the saxgourmet alto. He has owned or has played all the legend tenors of the past. A lot of the other imports try to convince you their horn is " as good as a " fill in the blank. Most are copies or slight modifications of copies of great horns from the past , so they should be close to the ones they copied. These are not. They are original designs that are extremely well built and made to last with playability and quality emphasized. And they have a sound that is addictive, easy to shape, and a pleasure to hear yourself play. If you ever get the chance to try one of these, do so. Take it to a tech you trust and see what he says. Record yourself. I recently put up new clips on our my space. These are tape recordings right off our head while performing live on the fourth of july in sebring. They were recorded with the model six tenor on the second day that I had the horn. Chameleon was recorded 2 months earlier live with my 82Z. The alto is Gary Johnson on a late model relacquered Mark VI. Myspace.com/groovusband

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        4. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          BTW, I am not now, nor have I ever been or claimed to be a pro musician......I do get the pleasure to play with some who are. Now nineball, that's another story.

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        5. by connsaxman_jim
          (2336 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          So are you in love with this sax or are you in love with Steve Goodson? Somebody needs to hook you up with a girl, saxxsymbol! I haven't heard anything bad about the Sax Gourmet horns, really. But like Cuber, I am a little skeptical about the good that I am hearing. I haven't seen but one Goodson horn; an alto. It reminded me of one model LA Sax horn that I played. It's a decent horn for the price, but nothing to rant and rave about.

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        6. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          I REALLY LOVE THIS HORN. DIDN'T YOU SAY THE GOODSON HORN YOU SAW WAS A STUDENT MODEL. I LIVE HERE IN SEBRING ABOUT 1 1/2 HOURS SOUTH OF ORLAND DOWN US 27. If you come down this way sometime you can try several pro models including the bari and you decide. I am not asking you to take my word. Try them yourself. And I don't think my beautiful wife would want me to hook up with another girl. Being skeptical is a good thing. I was too. Why folks think that a Conn 10M or a MarkVI is the height of saxophone engineering is beyond me. Technology has improved everything else, why not saxes. Somebody has to push the envelope. You can always tell who that person is. They are the ones with darts in their back. PM me for my cell # if you are heading down this way and you can try the SG alto , a saxgourmet model six tenor, SG bari and soon a saxgourmet model six alto.

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        7. by connsaxman_jim
          (2336 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          I'm just teasing about the girl bit. I really appreciate the offer. Thanks. Yes, the model I tried was more of a student model. It did have an F# if I recall. I don't spend nearly as much time reviewing horns as I once did. I haven't played nearly as much either. I've been spending more time at home. While I still love to play, I just needed a break for a while. Jim

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        8. by cuber
          (653 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          to be clear, im not saying anything about how "good" the horn is, im just questioning some of the "features" (in my mind gimicks) that unquestioningly drive the price up. also, it some of it kinda seems like a marketing ploy

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        9. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          The saxgourmet does not have a lot of features. It is a hand made, hand hammered body, bell, bow and neck, hand burnished with hand fitted keywork. It does have a lot of engraving though. They have a unique bore and taper with their own keywork. They are not copies of anything although the key layout is based on a mark VI with improvements in the palm key and side key placements. You are thinking of the Steve Goodson Model horns, of which I have two altos. It has a bunch of features. The first one I ordered is what started this whole mess. I ordered one for a backup.......

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        10. by saxxsymbol
          (217 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          And why couldn't a guy who has spent 40 years playing with saxes and messing with the flaws and experimenting with everything sax related come up with something better than bean counters?

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        11. by cuber
          (653 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: Saxgourmet tenor

          You are thinking of the Steve Goodson Model horns, of which I have two altos. It has a bunch of features. The first one I ordered is what started this whole mess. I ordered one for a backup....... damnit, i was. sorry, disregard what i previously said thanks for catching that before i made myself look more ignorant than i already did

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