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by emanresu00
(17 posts)
8 years ago

THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

I am a proud owner of the intermediate $800 USD "Made in Europe by one of the famous instrument manufacturers" ZAS 650 Alto saxophone. Or was... until today that I decided I am more of a trumpet player and tried to sell my hardly used, shiny sax in order to buy a Zeus trumpet. I dropped the sax at a reputable store for evaluation yesterday and was asked to drop in today when the sax guy would have had a chance to inspect the instrument. And I quote: Guy: "What brand is it?" Me: "Zeus". Guy: "Interesting. What model?" Me: "ZAS 650 model". Guy: "Where does it say so on the sax?" Me: "Well... Actually it only has a serial number I think. I got this as a new intermediate model for $800 USD as a bargain. Would you agree with that?" Guy: "Do you want the truth? This instrument is MADE IN CHINA. It is not even good for student quality. I cannot believe you paid that much for it. It probably cost the guy just $200. I'm sorry but we are not interested in buying it". Me: "Oh ok. Thanks for your help". Please note the same conversation times three for the next two hours while I was travelling downtown at three music shops to evaluate the instrument. NO ONE WOULD BUY IT FROM ME FOR MORE THAN $150 CAD!!!!!! And as they rightly guessed, I could not return the instrument. No refund policy from Alex. How do you explain this? I do not know about the other Zeus instruments but please give me an explanation. Why this lie? Is Zeus reliable? I am really sorry Alex but please try to imagine how It feels being ripped off and therefore poorer by $800 USD. I could have gotten an awesome sax or trumpet from a reputable brand for that. Please, please anyone can you post your HONEST comments? The sax guy in my case is REAL, all of them are. Thank you and God bless...

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  1. by mojocoggo
    (97 posts)

    8 years ago

    Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

    Wow. I actually considered buying one of their instruments but after hearing this.....no way. I think that if the sax plays well, and is in good condition, you might be able to scrape up a little more than $150 if you try selling on eBay... but then again, you might not...

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    1. by connsaxman_jim
      (2336 posts)

      8 years ago

      Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

      There are a lot of low quality Chinese saxophones being sold under various American and European sounding names. Would you buy a sax with a name like Hung Koi? Probably not! So they use names that sound a little more appealing. They also make claims like "German Engineered" or that they are a copy of a Selmer or a Yanagisawa. The basic design might be similar, but the alloys used, the pads, and overall quality is no where near that of the Selmer or Yani. It upsets me that many of these saxophones are being marketed on Ebay with some outrageous claims! Many claim they are professional quality instruments! The truth is, you're lucky if they last longer than a year without a key breaking or needing to have the pleather pads replaced. Yes pleather! That's not a typo! Plastic leather! Me and others have posted several comments about these cheap horns, speaking from experience. I admit, a couple years ago I wanted a soprano and didn't have much money to spend. I was tempted to buy one of the Schill sopranos until I talked to the tech who was working on my old Conn 10M at the time. He showed me a couple cheap Chinese horns that were taken in for repair and the repairs cost more than the horns were worth. Since I started collecting vintage horns, I have learned how to do some repairs, and I help out at the shop from time to time. I have seen many of these horns come in with various names, and unless it's just a very simple repair, like a spring that needs to be put back on, or a cork or something like that, we don't repair them. I have tried to warn people about these horns and the claims being made by those people selling them. The truth is, you just can't buy a good NEW saxophone for much less than $1000. Some of the Taiwanese horns like the Jupiter, and Antigua Winds and the Winston are decent student horns, but for a good intermediate saxophone, you're going to spend about $1500. If you shop around, you can often find a used student-intermediate model horn by Yamaha or Selmer in good condition for under $800. There are some really nice vintage instruments on the market too. If you buy one of these vintage instruments from Ebay, plan on putting a couple hundred dollars into repair; pads, adjustments, cork, etc. Some of the better buys when it comes to vintage are the Conn 14M and 16M Directors models made between 1955-1969, King Cleveland or 613, The Buescher 400's, Selmer Bundy's, Bundy II's (I hate them with a passion, but they are decent beginner horns!) older Vitos (made by Yanagisawa) Borgani saxophones (Made in Italy. Good quality horns) Vintage saxophones to avoid: Anything made before about 1930 if you plan on playing it regularly. They're going to need a little extra care and can be tempermental. If you have any questions, feel free to email me anytime. Let me know what you're looking to spend, and what you're looking for, and I'll see what I can find! Jim

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      1. by Heatherheathmusic
        (1 post)

        6 years ago

        Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

        Hello. I was wondering if you knew anything about Cecilio brand soprano saxophones? I have seen these on ebay and they look nice, but as you said you can't always be sure. I looked up the actual Cecilio website and they are selling for $2,000.00 so are they just a great one time deal, or are these junky sax? Any help would be great. Thanks. Heather

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      2. by Yoder
        (10 posts)

        8 years ago

        Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

        I am a ZeuS dealer and have followed the individual who posted this thread. This story appears over and over again on various forums. There are many problems with her story, but the main issue is that this person has a beef with ZeuS. Regarding the statement that ZeuS saxophones are "made in China is not true." All of our instruments are made where we state they are made. For us to say that they are made in Europe, or the USA when they are not would be false advertising and would drive us out of business. There are laws that prevent companies from making false claims--there should also be laws protecting readers from the lies like the individual above posted. Regarding the statement by connsaxman that "The truth is, you just can't buy a good NEW saxophone for much less than $1000," is not true. Granted, you will not find a professional level sax for that amount and your choices are limited, but it is possible to manufacture good student horns and sell them for less than $1000. For example, if one eliminates the middle man, does not spend a fortune on marketing, and buys direct from the manufacturer, then it is possible to offer students saxes for less than $1000 like ZeuS does. I bought my daughter one of the $1600 Jupiter's made in Taiwan. I have since purchased all of my daughters various ZeuS instruments for half of what they are charging at the local music stores for comparable instruments. I became a dealer only because I felt that I could offer the local population decent deals. I have showed all of the ZeuS horns to local dealers, musicians, teachers, repairmen, parents, etc., and never have I received a negative comment. Before I bought the ZeuS clarinet I was able to compare it to a Selmer and Yamaha, and the ZeuS was a better instrument and so I purchased it. I would invite anyone to try a ZeuS before they pass judgement on them. Again, the chap who started this thread is notorious for slandering ZeuS.

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        1. by KingNecron
          (76 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          I see a problem here. Yoder refers to "many problems with her story," then goes on to say "the CHAP who started this thread is notorious for slandering ZeuS." (emphasis added) I don't know of too many people who call girls "chaps." And in subsequent posts, Yoders refers to this unfortunate buyer as a male, using the pronouns "he" and "his." This all stinks of those crappy "Monique" sopranos you see on E-Bay, if you want my humble opinion. You never hear of a representative from Selmer getting on a message board, accusing unsatisfied customers of any "slander against Selmer." Why? Maybe because they are established and can stand the bad rap, but I'm more inclined to believe it's because they and other companies are busy putting out high quality products. Granted, the person making this post could have some beef with ZeuS, but if he/she does, it's justified if the horn were in such terrible shape. This site acts as, among other things, a consumer protection agency for sax players, and we strive to let others know about shoddy merchandise so our hard-earned dollars can go toward buying the best sax for our money.

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        2. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          By the way emanresu00, if you would like to sell me the above mentioned horn for $150 CAD then I would be more than happy to buy it off of you. I am assuming that it is in excellent condition since you said it is hardly used. Let me know--I am willing to negotiate.

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        3. by emanresu00
          (17 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Hi again, Well Yoder, thanks for your offer. The sax has already been sold for $150 CAD at a pawn shop but I DID BUY IT FROM ALEX and I CAN PROVE IT. But you would probably want to reiterate your claims about the ZEUS supremacy to me in person, which makes sense as this is a business and you are doing your job by protecting the brand which you are selling. However, it is ridiculous to suggest that I am slandering ZEUS for no reason after believing Alex's claims on his site and spending $800 USD. By purchasing I became a customer of yours! I simply felt ripped off and belittled as an ignorant and gullible buyer through the experience at the local store where the instrument was evaluated. And I have submitted the same post at www.trumpetherald.com but have nothing to do with negative comments from other people. By the way, regarding the claim that some ZEUS instruments are "made in Elkhart, Indiana by one of the major manufacturers", it could never be by Selmer because they make instruments for no one else according to the previously mentioned sax guy in my case. Anyhow, as it was said, the truth always prevails in the end. If someone buys a Zeus and proves the sax dealers of my circumstance wrong, please post it and I will restore my trust in Zeus. I simply cannot understand why then, more than one dealer rejected Zeus after inspection. A word of advice: To restore trust and shut some claims about Alex's shady or elusive nature and unwillingness to reveal details of the Zeus origins, tell us more. Elusiveness only reinforces suspicion. Reputable manufacturers reveal on their sites whole or parts of their instruments made by other companies, so why not you as well? Take care.

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        4. by saxomaniac
          (14 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Wait a minute... if a ZeuS is as good as you say, why would the poor lad want to sell it to you for $150?!? It seems that the person who wrote the original post was just concerned with the response they got to the quality of the horn, and if, as you say, this is a common concern floating around other posts then it seems that it may be a valid concern. I don't know, maybe not much anyway, but it seemed that the original posting was more a concern asking honest advice from others, not a "slandering" comment on ZeuS at all. They were just concerned. But as for me, I think I'll stop my crusade here of trying to stick up for others, right after I say... don't slander others for words that at least I didn't hear them saying at all... Saxomaniac signing out.

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        5. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Well, I really doubt if he owns the horn. He made it sound like he wants to unload it. I believe I said I would also negotiate. If he wants to sell it, but can't unload it then I will take it off of his hands, but I doubt if we will hear from him again in this context. If you noticed he joined and then made the post about ZeuS. He has submitted the exact same post on about five different forums. In most cases his post was pulled by the administrators. Point is: this is not the first time that I have read the post! He is the only one who has posted this on other forums--it is not a public concern as you suggest.

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        6. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Here, let me support my claims: The above story can be read at TrumpetMaster via the following link: www.trumpetmaster.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4325&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=zeus&start=0 This guy also goes under various alias, but did not think to hide his ISP as the moderators of TM found out: Here is the info on him they collected, as well as his ISP: www.trumpetmaster.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4335

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        7. by KingNecron
          (76 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Give me your user name and password and I'll check it out. :)

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        8. by saxomaniac
          (14 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Well, I won't claim to know everything... I've been known to be wrong, at least once!?! : ) And I'm new to this forum, so obviously I don't know the full story. I guess this post caught me at a time when I had seen enough "bashing" on forums I'd had enough... again, not that this is what was happening, just looking out for others.

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        9. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          All is well. You were just taken for a ride like a lot of others were--myself included in the beginning. It is always unfortuante when ones' best intentions are made a mockery of by the immature needs of others. Moral of story: The truth always prevails in the end.

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        10. by emanresu00
          (17 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Has anyone checked out my reply to Yoder above? Any comments? Besides, I heard that Zeus trumpets for example are mede by Kanstul in California, and not Elkhart, Indiana as Zachary music states on their website. I do not know if this is true, but the rumour is on the web.

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        11. by Dave Dix
          (421 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          I test played a Zeus once and thought the crappy champion model next to it was better. It screamed Chinese to me Dave

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        12. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          The upper end trumpets are made at the Kanstul manufacturing plant. The two student trumpets are made in Elkhart, Indiana. Regarding where the ZeuS saxophones are made--I do not know the exact manufacturer. I know it is not Selmer as suggested above, but I have a good idea who it is and it is European. Personally, I will share with everyone everything that I know about ZeuS. Regarding the dealers you talked to, they are no different from any other dealers who are locked into selling specific brands of instruments. The dealers who talked to you lied to you, fed you disinformation that led to your being ripped off. I know you could have received a decent price for the horn. When I said I would have given you $150 US it was tongue-in-cheek. Depending on the condition of the horn I would have gladly purchased it back for $400-$500. I would also try selling on eBay. Did you check out what the pawn shop listed its price at? Sounded Chinese? What is the Chinese sound? One hand clapping?

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        13. by Dave Dix
          (421 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          No just crap brass, very soft and easily bendable.The intonation was not very good and the pads seemed cheap Dave

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        14. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          I am curious: What model was it? What store did you try it at?

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        15. by Dave Dix
          (421 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          It was in a shop in England Dave

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        16. by emanresu00
          (17 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Fact of the matter is, if an instrument is good, it will eventually show and people wouldn't have to defend the brand so fiercely. I mean at least the majority of the instruments should be quite good. How many faulty Yamahas or Selmers or Yanagisawas or Vitos are there?

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        17. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          In all due respect, you seem to be the only one making an issue over ZeuS. ZeuS, as will all instrument brands, will have its die hard loyalist and those who will try to tear it down. Such is life.

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        18. by connsaxman_jim
          (2336 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          The upper end trumpets are made at the Kanstul manufacturing plant. The two student trumpets are made in Elkhart, Indiana. Regarding where the ZeuS saxophones are made--I do not know the exact manufacturer. Judging from the quality I've seen, I seriously doubt that ANYTHING ZeuS makes is made in Elkhart or USA. I don't know if their saxophones are made in China, Taiwan, or Boonesfield, Egypt! They are not a good quality instrument.

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        19. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          7 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Just passsing by. Connsaxman, I do not believe that you have seen many ZeuS instruments. The flutes have Elkhart, Indiana stamped on them. I just bought one a few months ago and it is a superb instrument. I do not deal much with ZeuS anymore do to other priorities in life, but I really do not thing you have seen many Zeus' in your time. The trumpets are by far their best instrument, and if you go to www.co-bw.com and take the factory tour you will recognize it as the Kanstul plant. Kanstul, in case you do not know, makes a very high quality trumpet. I think you must know Alex and have a bone to pick with him. Personally, I like quality and know that I have quality instruments from ZeuS. When the price was raised is when the marketing advantage ceased for ZeuS, thus, adios. My daughter also owns a ZeuS ZAS 1000. I had a reputable dealer/rapairman look at it and he knew exactly who and where it was made. It was sometime back but I do know he said Selmer, and I beleve he said he knew it was made at Nogales, Arizona. This is where Conn moved many of its manufacturing operations. They are good instruments, especially the student level horns...but with the increase in price they are no longer a great deal at the upperend. Though the brass instruments are still selling well, and sell solely by reputation.

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        20. by sax&lax
          (1 post)

          6 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          i'm just browsing info about the ZeuS... i want to let you know i don't trust much that comes from the Nogales factory. true, that's where conn moved back in 1963. and that's the time that their saxes went downhill. the conns made from there were a great disappointment. if you want to impress me, which i would very much like to happen, then don't bring up Nogales. just don't.

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        21. by Yoder
          (10 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          Never was trying to impress, just trying to put some facts out. Too much slamming of inanimate objects due to the personalities of those who are associated with such. Nogales you say? The ZeuS sax I have is a decent horn. I would not call it a top end professional sax, though I would say that of the ZeuS trumpets. I no longer deal Zeus instruments at all. My site will attest to that www.co-bw.com

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      3. by amazingmanderrr
        (25 posts)

        6 years ago

        Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

        this leads me to inquire about my saxophone. where does a musica saxophone come from? because that's what i got. a gold musica alto saxophone.

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        1. by amazingmanderrr
          (25 posts)

          6 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          gold being the color of course=]

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      4. by ContrabassSax
        (10 posts)

        5 years ago

        Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

        hey dude, i hope you end up reading my comments. Ok, two years ago i came in looking for a Good quality SELMER alto sax. I did not know much about saxophones then, because i had only been playing for a year. I came to a store and was given a nice looking saxophone. The man selling it to me went on and on saying it was a selmer. He sold it to me for $870.00. (good deal for a Selmer wouldn't you think). Two years later i went to another store to have it repaired due to some problems. The repair man claimed this is one of the worst saxophones he had ever seen, and that he sold saxophones better than that for less than $300.00. We told him that we were told it was a Selmer, and that Selmers are among the best quality horns exsisting. The repair man took a look around the horn which only had a serial number (which apparently as we found out later had been faked.). "This is NOT a Selmer," he said, "I hate to tell you this, but you you have been terribly ripped off. This was made in CHINA, and is no good. Go to the Court House and file for Fraud so that they'll take the owner of the store to court and you can get your money back." Ok, i have read a lot about Zeus horns online, and the reviews are comparing them to Selmers, Jupiters, and Yanagisawas. These horns in my opinion from reading the reviews seem like very good horns. Perhaps whoever sold it to you TOLD YOU it was a Zeus, and (since it doesn't say it's a Zeus on your horn), really it is a cheap-made instrument from China. In other words, Zeus is not bad. The fact that somebody lied to you saying it was a Zeus was bad. -Just my thought- Thanks, Ben

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        1. by connsaxman_jim
          (2336 posts)

          5 years ago

          Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

          That is a very good point, Ben. Any saxophone made by a reputable manufacturer should have their name on the bell! Beware of names that sound like well-known brands, like Selman, for example. If at all possible, PLAY THE HORN BEFORE YOU BUY IT! If you have little knowledge of saxophones, ask a friend or relative, or other parents. Tell them that you are looking for a horn for your beginning student and ask them if they have any recommendations. They might even have a nice horn that they would be willing to sell or pass on! If you buy a used horn, the first thing that I would suggest is taking the horn to a repair facility to get it cleaned and checked out. At the very least, it should be cleaned! A few adjustments probably wouldn't hurt! If you buy a NEW horn, BE SURE TO ASK ABOUT THE WARRANTY, SERVICING THE HORN, AND THE STORE'S RETURN POLICY! If you buy the horn and for whatever reason, it just doesn't work out, can you return it? Is there any restocking fee, or return fee? If you should decide to upgrade in a few years, would they allow you to "trade in" your old horn? When renting a horn, shop prices for the same model horn. Find out what you can BUY the horn for. Usually the rental price is based on MSRP. Often, these horns can be bought for considerably less. Do the math. Add up your rental payments. How much are you actually paying for this horn? You might be surprised! Some music stores offer a maintenance agreement, or service plan on the horns that they sell. Some even offer insurance. From my experience, the maintenance agreements are usually well worth the money they cost. As for the insurance, the horn should be covered under your home-owners insurance in the event that it was stolen or damaged, though it wouldn't hurt to ask your agent. Any purchase, no matter what the price, is an investment. Usually the more you invest, the greater the return! Jim

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          1. by ContrabassSax
            (10 posts)

            5 years ago

            Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

            Thanks, You are very right. I always thought stuff like Selman was bad. Anyways, that situation I had was recently taken care of. I now have a very good alto. Ben

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            1. by JZ
              (83 posts)

              5 years ago

              Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

              So I'm reading the latest resurrection of this thread about the Zeus, asking "where do they come up with these names"? And then I realized: Jupiter. The Zeus name apparently is derivative of the Jupiter line of saxophones. A few threads back I commented that the Borg saxophone was derivative of Borgani. And we all know that from Selmer, we get the Selmar. So instead of a Yani, a what? A Yoni? Yeah, I never owned a Yoni, but I rented a few over the years. The Big Bell model, I believe. I think this is all supposed to be a lot funnier (at least in General Discussions). On second thought, where did the name Jupiter come from? Where are those manufactured?

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            2. by saxismyaxe
              (569 posts)

              5 years ago

              Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

              Actually, Zeus was a brand based out of Canada, that had received some bad wrap in the past. I'm not aware that they are even still in business. I believe that the product line was manufactured in Asia (Taiwan).

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            3. by zimmerman
              (2 posts)

              5 years ago

              Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

              Don't know who has confused a Zeus from Alex in Canada, with apparently some junk from who knows where. I have a Zeus and it is better made than my selmer signet of 1980. I think further back there was another company with this name, but not made by the same folks. There is no way some cheap china brand beside a Zeus was better.

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            4. by zimmerman
              (2 posts)

              5 years ago

              Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

              I did have a pad to pop off. So far the instrument holds up. Intonation is comparable to my selmer signet from highschool, not perfect. If you are a pro, you can adust pitch by mouth anyway. Was it Charlie Parker who hocked his metal sax for a plastic one in a pinch? The thing that bothers me is what I hear about customer service, which is dull. Don't expect to be charmed by Alex. His first assumption is wrong, that the customer is almost always wrong and he considers a lot of people idiots. Don't visit Zachary Guitars or the idiot's page! I am disappointed resale value is almost zip. Over all - I think the saxophone is pretty good. It has potential for a good history.

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            5. by hlx
              (2 posts)

              4 years ago

              Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

              I purchased a Zeus ZTR 1000 trumpet 1 year ago. I also purchased an Aegis lead mouthpiece. Since then I am playing almost every day, I cannot put the trumpet down. I am playing up to G3 in performance. I am an amateur player, but with this pro horn and excellent mouthpiece I am playing all the music I was just dreaming of before. I used to tell my friends I was not talented but they do not belive me any more. Seriously. Zeus is made by Kanstul, you can compare the photos of the horns. the factory tour photos are also identical with Kanstul factory photos. Alex is an interesting personality, do not enter into complicated conversation with him and then you will have no problem. Warranty is not clear, but I like the good price and excellent quality better than any warranty. Anyway, I am leaving overseas.

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            6. by hlx
              (2 posts)

              4 years ago

              Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

              I purchased a Zeus ZTR 1000 trumpet 1 year ago. I also purchased an Aegis lead mouthpiece. Since then I am playing almost every day, I cannot put the trumpet down. I am playing up to G3 in performance. I am an amateur player, but with this pro horn and excellent mouthpiece I am playing all the music I was just dreaming of before. I used to tell my friends I was not talented but they do not belive me any more. Seriously. Zeus is made by Kanstul, you can compare the photos of the horns. the factory tour photos are also identical with Kanstul factory photos. Alex is an interesting personality, do not enter into complicated conversation with him and then you will have no problem. Warranty is not clear, but I like the good price and excellent quality better than any warranty. Anyway, I am living overseas.

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          2. by jazzdude1123
            (5 posts)

            4 years ago

            Re: THE TRUTH ABOUT ZEUS

            I have found a company that seems like a Zues. But, there are reviews saying the most that had happened to them was a spring fix. The Brand is saxophone.com, yes that is what is engraved on the bell. Although, i was just at a jazz camp and heard this high schooler who had a sax of the same brand. He said in his own words that is was just as good as any other brand. He was one amazing player too. So, if any one goes to this site, and sees something the sends a red flag through their minds, let me know. I am kind of thinking of purchasing a soprano from them.

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