Ooo cool Thanks Hex

yeah hex, golfergus right you should read the growl threads.i've read , but i still can't growl.any suggestions?

can you growl without a sax? it's pretty simmilar, so try to do that into the sax. then just practice it, as it can take years to get a good growl. Flutter tongueing is like rolling your rs onto the reed. i can't do it. i also can't roll my rs-_-

yeah i've already tried the growl into sax thing but i guess i'll just have to keep trying. thanks DAVID

Growling is just humming while you play your horn. Don't make if more difficult than it is. You can play around with trying to harmonize notes you sing with notes you play, but generally, this isn't necessary if you are just trying to get that growling tone. Flutter tonguing is literally fluttering your tongue while you're playing your horn...sort of like rolling a spanish "R" sound, fluttering your tongue against the roof of your mouth. Generally, growling is a more musical embellishment. It sounds especially good on alto...listen to Phil Woods and Cannonball, they use it very tastefully and to great effect. Like any effect like this, a little goes a long way. Have fun!

I guess since we've made another full thread out of this topic, I'll post again. There are a couple ways of growling. The one jazzsax mentioned takes more throat control, you have to open your throat and more scream than hum, somewhere in the middle of the two. Then there's the first way I mentioned.