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by duoheer
(15 posts)
19 years ago

ligature

watz the BEST ligature for alto sax, in smooth jazz or jazz playing? thx

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  1. by joe812119
    (18 posts)

    19 years ago

    Re: ligature

    ive been playing jazz sax for 22 years, and i can tell you a student lig is just fine. dont waste your money.

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    1. by phathorn
      (165 posts)

      19 years ago

      Re: ligature

      I disagree, I've found better response from reeds with a good ligature set up...

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  2. by connsaxman_jim
    (2336 posts)

    19 years ago

    Re: ligature

    probably an Oleg, or an Ultimate. Both are really good. The Rovner Eddie Daniels or Evo 5's are pretty good too. I use Rovners and I really like them. They're a little cheaper.

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    1. by mattdude
      (74 posts)

      19 years ago

      Re: ligature

      the ligature should be the least of your worries.

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      1. by connsaxman_jim
        (2336 posts)

        19 years ago

        Re: ligature

        Well, if you're playing an inexpensive Chinese or student model horn, then I agree, the ligature is the least of your worries. But, I am assuming that you have been playing a while, have a good horn, and mouthpiece set-up. If not, that should be your first step.

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        1. by SaxMan88
          (318 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          I play on an Armstrong alto and have found that in changing my reed and lig setup I got a huge difference in sound. I was using the stock metal lig with plain Rico 3's. Then I tried Hemke reeds with the lig and the reeds seemed to be nicer to me but I still had a suppressed sound. So I bought a box of Vandoren ZZ 3's and a Rovner Dark lig...holy smokes first time I played the sax I was almost knocked off my feet because of the brightness. For tenor I'm playing a Selmer LaVoix, and I need to get a new mouthpiece and most likely a different lig and some different reeds b/c I'm using an S80 C* with a Rovner Dark and Vandoren Traditionals...it's somewhat jazzy but it's not. It's kind of like forcing a baby to eat from the spoon...it might take it but it won't like it. So, I'm getting that new setup to help with my jazz songs. So indeed a ligature does make a big difference. Let no one tell you otherwise.

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        2. by selmer 4evr
          (309 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          If you could get one find a Bonade for rubber pieces only however

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        3. by Bleeding_Gums_Murphy
          (55 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          Rovners (ED, EVO-5) and Consoli Rampligs are awesome. The Consoli has great projection and outstanding response.

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        4. by YanagisawA-901
          (312 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          a lot of times ill just play with the cheap-ass cruddy stock lig.

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        5. by SaxMan88
          (318 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          And that can be a bad thing, Yani *frowns*

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        6. by spifster
          (67 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          Try an Oleg. I used to play on a rovner dark until this thing came and it sings. Opened up the mouthpiece, had so many more subtones than I thought my link could produce. I found with the rovner you have one sound and it doesnt change much no matter what you put behind it.

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        7. by phathorn
          (165 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          for HR alto pieces, the Bay ligs are excellent...Have been using the same one since 1990 and has worked with both my classical set up and the big Couf Artist piece I use with my band...

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        8. by SaxMan88
          (318 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          Those Bay ligs look more classical...but I guess I could be wrong?

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        9. by phathorn
          (165 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          yeah, they're ornate...but as long as they allow for proper reed response, that's all that counts

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        10. by selmer 4evr
          (309 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          If you could find a D Bonade buy it leave the Bay alone it is too flimsy and is a poor design.

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        11. by phathorn
          (165 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          which is why mine has lasted for 15 years and a bunch of nobodies (like Sinta and his students) play them. It is one of the best ligatures I've ever used.

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        12. by Cannon
          (23 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          a Bay too flimsy and poor design? The Bay ligature i have is simply amazing. You just have to show caution when handling it. It can get you a great reed response though.

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        13. by Cannon
          (23 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          I use the Bay for my legit playing mainly. I use a Vandoren Optimum for my big band. Both are very good choices.

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        14. by SaxMan88
          (318 posts)

          19 years ago

          Re: ligature

          Miles Osland, professor at University of Kentucky uses nothing BUT Bay ligs in his setups...including jazz setups. Flimsy and or fragile doesn't always mean poor or poor quality in the music world. For example, gold is a fragile metal...but it's not cheap or poor by any means. Ya just gotta use care when handling it. Might be the same thing with a Bay lig...just show care when handling it and it will be the best lig one ever owned!

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