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by everly2
(2 posts)
8 years ago

wanting to buy a soprano sax

I currently play a selmer ref. 54 and am looking to get a soprano. I really don't know anything about them. I see all kinds of "no names" for really inexpensive. I mostly play with our church band and would like something that sounds good and is a good value. Does any one have any suggestions? Thanx

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  1. by kneejerk52
    (397 posts)

    8 years ago

    Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

    i use a winston 350gl in my church band it sounds fine and i got it for 650 with a selmer mpc i use on it' don't get cheap junk on ebay or dominics. check previous threads on this subject there are tons, probably the most of any single subject. i tried to tell my friend and he did anyway and it's not so good. very hard to play and it's not easy to begin with on a good one. good luck

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    1. by Sax Mom
      (964 posts)

      8 years ago

      Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

      I also play a Winston, and am very pleased with it. Other than getting new neck corks when I got it, and gluing the key tops back on, it's needed no repairs in the two years I and my daughter have used it.

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    2. by everly2
      (2 posts)

      8 years ago

      Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

      thanx for your reply. as i stated i am just learning about the soprano sax. the winston brand has four models, how do i now which one is the professional model? and do you have any other suggestions before i purchase thanx

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      1. by Sax Mom
        (964 posts)

        8 years ago

        Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

        When you read the descriptions on their website, the 368 model seems to be the most elaborate. However, they don't describe any as "pro" or "student." Their stated mission follows (from their frequently asked questions page): What is your mission? Quality, performance and value. Our team of specialists is designing/consulting with manufacturers around the world to build the finest musical instruments that offer the best overall value to the performer. We are always trying to find new and improved ways to refine the quality of our products. It is our mission to offer the best quality musical instruments at the most affordable prices.

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        1. by connsaxman_jim
          (2336 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

          If you're used to playing a Selmer ref. 54, I'm not sure you're going to be satisfied with a Winston. They are a decent sax for the money, but no where near the same quality as the Selmer Reference Series. I would look at the Antigua Winds soprano for the money. Their soprano is a copy of a Selmer and it is near pro quality for a fraction of the cost. The Yamaha YSS-475 is a great intermediate model soprano with great intonation and sound for a modest price. The Keilwerth SX-90 soprano has excellent intonation, and a darker vintage sound along with some modern conveniences like adjustable keys. The Yanagisawa sopranos are also known for their excellent intonation and quality. Jim

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        2. by saxismyaxe
          (574 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

          Just to clarify: The PRE 500 series of Antigua horns is based on the old Selmer design recycled and re-badged for the MKVI Soprano (in line palm keys etc.), which isn't necessarily a good thing, as this was the weakest and least popular of the horn in the MKVI line-not actually a new/updated design for the line, as mentioned above. HOWEVER, the Antigua Winds 500 line (582/586/590) (the series that everyone, including myself, is raving about) is based on the Yanagisawa 900 series, a computer copy as a matter of fact. This series is the one you want to go with if you purchase an Antigua.

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      2. by practicemakespracticed
        (1 post)

        5 years ago

        Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

        I have a series 3 sop, clear laquer, not even tarnished yet, looking for 5 thousand, comes with stand and case. If interested mail me at john_citizen1@hotmail.com

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      3. by musicman_horton
        (19 posts)

        8 years ago

        Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

        You can go the route of buying an expensive pro horn, a vintage horn, or a not so expensive horn. I play an LA Sax 650 black soprano. Paid 650 for it, and I like the tone of the horn better than a Selmer. I play a Eugene Rousseau mouthpiece and a rovner dark ligature.

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      4. by musicman_horton
        (19 posts)

        8 years ago

        Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

        You can go the route of buying an expensive pro horn, a vintage horn, or a not so expensive horn. I play an LA Sax 650 black soprano. Paid 650 for it, and I like the tone of the horn better than a Selmer. I play a Eugene Rousseau mouthpiece and a rovner dark ligature.

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        1. by Sax Mom
          (964 posts)

          8 years ago

          Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

          The original request was for something that "sounds good and is a good value." I stand behind my assertion that the E.M. Winston sounds good and is a good value. However, you may be able to get an Antigua Winds horn for a similar price, and I have no experience with them. I had no trouble with the Winston keywork, but I don't play a Selmer. My horns have generally been vintage Conn.

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          1. by CountSpatula
            (602 posts)

            8 years ago

            Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

            I play a Ref 54 alto too, and I rented an old winston and it felt fine to me, played great too (First time ever touching a soprano)...Low Bb all the way to altissimo A was no problem, and it was on a cheap 15 dollar rico mouthpiece...haha.

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            1. by connsaxman_jim
              (2336 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              I have played a few Winstons and they are pretty good for the money, but compared to a Selmer Ref. 54, you may find the Winston a little substandard. Of course, the Winston sells for less than $500 compared to the Ref. 54 which sells for almost 8 times the price! Try a Winston! It may very well suit your needs. If it doesn't, try the Antigua. I think you will find that for a couple hundred more than the Winston, the Antigua has a little more in common with your Ref. 54 in terms of quality and performance. Count Spatula, those cheapo Rico mouthpieces are quite good! You kids have got to get over the idea that it can't be good unless it is expensive! And, your testimony about the Winston...Who are you kidding man? That is a total lie! First of all, there are no OLD Winstons! Winston is a fairly new brand. NOBODY, can pick up a soprano for the first time and play from low Bb to altissimo A. The soprano embrochure takes lots of practice! I played tenor, alto and clarinet for years before I first picked up a soprano sax, and it still took some time to learn the embrochure! You couldn't play altissimo A if your balls were on fire! Don't lie! You play a student model Selmer and have never touched a soprano in your life!

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            2. by CountSpatula
              (602 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              Why are you telling me what I can or can't do? The winstons been in the school for a few years, few dings, lots of scratches. I thought they were old, but I guess not. But after practicing soprano for maybe 10 mins I could hit an A, but of course my freshman year I had an indestructable lip then...and even now I practice altissimo all the time. STudent model Selmer? I don't know if you were refering to alto or soprano. I have a reference 54 hummingbird, and if you would like I'll get my camera and upload pictures for you. I don't think you'd know this info unless you stalked me... IMO I would pick a Selmer mouthpiece over a Rico any day...but of course the Selmer isn't necesarily my favorite mouthpiece either. I don't feel like getting into an argument here, just stop contradicting on what I have done, seeing as you are you, and I am me.

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            3. by connsaxman_jim
              (2336 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              I don't believe 90% of what you say, Count. You seem to feel a need to reply to EVERY post. You reply to the SAME questions that you yourself asked only a month or so before. I'd say I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by saying a month! You lack of experience is obvious in your answers. It's easy for someone who has been around the track as much as I have to spot horse-shit when I see it! I can upload pics of horns all day long! That doesn't mean I own them! I have a really nice picture of a 1928 Conn-O-Sax here that I sure WISH was mine!!! Would you like me to send it to you along with pictures of the 26 horns that I DO own? If your parents REALLY spent that kind of money on a horn for you to take to school, then kid, you better live at home until you're 40!

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            4. by CountSpatula
              (602 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              I can take a picture of it with me right next to it, will that convince you? :P I started out in 6th grade with a YAS-23. 7th grade I moved up to a Selmer Series III, and about half a year ago I got my Reference Bird. I can go find several links to threads I don't post at. When did I ask a question about buying a soprano sax? :P What's wrong with having a good horn? I met a freshman monday that has a Mark VI ;o) We both have disagreements, its part of life. You don't have to bash me and me be automatically wrong just because I haven't played as long as you. Atleast put a reason why I'm wrong...

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            5. by CountSpatula
              (602 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              There seems to be so much hate in your posts...if theres a problem can you try to act like a gentleman? I kinda hate having new saxquest members coming to the forum and seeing arguments everywhere. Did me saying I could play an altissimo A offend you? If not what did I do?

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            6. by martinsaxman2
              (13 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              Oh boy, another "Baby Sax" thread. Oye vay!

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            7. by CountSpatula
              (602 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              :P Yo no quiero luchar con èl T_T Soy un chico simpatico? No puedo hablar español muy bien=(...

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            8. by connsaxman_jim
              (2336 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              It's not hatred, Count...it's an intolerance to stupidity! The two things that annoy me the most are: 1. People who have little knowledge on a topic, yet claim to know everything. These people feel a need to spout off opinions as if they are fact; having little or no experience in the matter at all. 2. People who feel a need to lie about their accomplishments, belongings, etc. to make themselves the envy of others. Where is the pride in that? Be honest. Be humble.

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            9. by CountSpatula
              (602 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              And which one of those did I do?

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            10. by Roccosm
              (113 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              Hi Jim, Jim I bought a Buescher Soprano BU3 I don't have it yet and I can't find anything about the line, would You Know, R

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            11. by connsaxman_jim
              (2336 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              The BU-3 is a fairly late model Buescher intermediate model horn. They are manufactured under the Buesher name by Conn-Selmer. I think that they are made in Taiwan, or at least the current models are. I haven't tried one of the sopranos, but I did see a BU-5 tenor that was quite impressive for the money. Jim

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            12. by Roccosm
              (113 posts)

              8 years ago

              Re: wanting to buy a soprano sax

              Hi Jim, thank You for Your help, i do appreciate it. I just got a Chu Berry 28 serial Num m212666 can You shed any light on this Horn. Thank You again. Roc

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